AN EXPENSIVE DISPOSABLE SLEEPING
BAG
Can you imagine paying $125.00 to $300.00 for a disposable sleeping bag?
In my educated opinion of how sleeping bags are made and the synthetic
insulating materials used in them the Mountain Hardwear Company (MH) has
done just that, made the most expensive disposable sleeping bag I have
ever seen.
Several years ago I was engaged in conversation with one of the owners
of MH about licensing them to market Lamilite laminated sleeping bags.
We conversed for I believe six years and ultimately MH decided that the
down bag market was growing and would stick with the old shingle construction
for their synthetic bags. In reality they were working towards the production
of laminated continuous filament fiber sleeping bags. At this time they
are marketing four models to the best of my knowledge.
Buyer bewares! I have worked with every form of fiberfill since the inception
of polyester fiber for insulating purposes in about 1961. In my opinion
silicone treated continuous filament polyester fiber makes the best insulating
material ever created however, it is necessary to know how to work with
it, you can't just stuff it between two pieces of nylon and say here is
a sleeping bag. That is what MH has in my opinion done.
They have given thought only to the outer appearance so their bags look
like my bags. Looks can be and in this case are very deceiving. I have
purchased two of their zero degree rated bags. The model is called "Lamina
0" for zero degrees and they make "Lamina" this or that
for different temperatures. In copying my products I would have thought
they would at least come up with a different name but, alas they haven't
much imagination or they want people to think their bags contain Lamilite.
Unfortunately for any person who buys one of these bags they will not
be getting Lamilite insulation.
A visual inspection of the bag shows a significant amount of fiber migration.
When working with continuous filament fiber it is important to encapsulate
the fiber between two layers of material in order to eliminate the migration
of the fiber. Continuous filament fiber will move like a snake, once it
finds a way out (migrate through the fabric) it will always come through
that area of the fabric. With chopped staple fiber or down when it comes
through the fabric you just pull it out and discard it but, not so with
continuous filament fiber it just keeps coming. When I opened the first
bag I was surprised to find that the fiber was laid in the bag length
wise. I have always laid the fiber so its direction is across the bag
or so it goes around the body versus laying length wise going from head
to foot. This method of manufacturing is I believe a mistake. The fiber
is laid over an 80 to 90 inch length and the width is 32 or so inches
wide for both top and bottom of the bag. Placing the fiber in the bag
in this manner will allow it to be separated by the body weight on the
fiber when your cheeks flatten out it will cause the un-bonded fiber to
separate by any movement of the occupant of the bag.
I washed one bag as I would a Wiggy bag, low water level and gentle cycle.
I then opened the bag to see how the fiber looked. As I expected the fiber
from the top layer of the bag started to intermingle with the fiber from
the bottom layer which causes the fibers to warp or distort. Fiber separation
was immediately noted. Had this bag been used for a week or two before
laundering the fiber separation would have been extensive! In addition
I noted that the fiber became lumpy in some areas and the number of thick
and thin spots increased significantly throughout the laundered bag. Without
opening the bag, just feeling it, it will feel to the consumer like the
fiberfill shifted and distorted. Which is exactly what has occurred in
the bag and I am quite sure those who chose to purchase one of these bags
will find out very quickly about this fiber breakdown problem. I also
noted that the fiber scrunched along the lamination points, imagine scrunching
a cloth and applying it to a piece of tape so it is not smooth, that is
what occurred as a result of laundering.
As for the temperature rating I doubt that they are accurate but it's
a mute point as far as I am concerned. If the bags are used in moderate
temperatures all of the problems I have seen in my testing will appear
for any user of these bags.
Below are a number of photos I took of these bags before and after laundering.
This first photo shows how closely the MH bag looks to mine. It is their
supposed zero degree bag.

This photo shows the inside of the
MH bag, note there are no stitch lines just like a Wiggy bag.

This photo is the inside
of the bag, note how uneven the fiber is and it should be noted that the
fiber is laid in the bag length-wise; we put it in to circle the body.
This photo shows fiber migration
before the bag is used, it will get worse.
This photo shows the difference
in size after one laundering. The shrinkage was about 3 to 4 inches.
The next two photos show
how the fiber has scrunched along the lamination lines they use to attach
the fiber to the nylon. This occurred after the first and only laundering.
Fiber migration amplified
after the first and only laundering.
This photo shows the initial
fiber separation after the one and only laundering.
This photo show how the fiber
is beginning to bunch after the only laundering.
Some thoughts on the sleeping
bag part of the outdoor / camping industry specifically about the insulating
mediums that are available and how the so called designers view and use
them. In my opinion these people are brain dead when it comes to insulations.
Synthetic fiberfill has as I have said been in use since 1961 so it seems
to me that the information as how to make and work with these fiberfill
materials should be readily known and understood by the people who deal
with them. If any representative from any company were to visit with me
showing their fiberfill I know that I know more about their product than
they do. How do I know this, I have been in the industry for over 40 years
and have seen all possible products thus far. In all these years the equipment
used to form fiberfill batting hasn't changed. There are several others
who have been in the business almost as long but they just seem to have
chosen not to learn regardless of their experiences with some of these
materials.
As an example an individual that I know who will remain nameless has been
in the camping industry since about 1970. I am using this person as my
example since he is currently in the employ of MH and is the person at
MH whom I had most of my communication with, with respect to licensing
them to market Lamilite sleeping bags. When I met him years ago he was
working at Sierra Designs (SD) I believe designing products which included
sleeping bags. When SD started marketing synthetic insulated sleeping
bags they were I believe only Polarguard (PG) filled. They may have used
some chopped staple fiber and if so I don't recall. In the early 1990's
3-M Corporation brought to market polyester batting that is trade named
Thinsulate Liteloft (TL). While I was attending the Outdoor Retailer trade
show at that time I noticed that SD was showing a line of sleeping bags
filled with this supposedly new polyester fiberfill product TL. When I
saw him I asked why he was using a chopped staple fiber product since
we all knew that it was much inferior to the continuous filament fiberfill
PG. Keep in mind that other companies that existed at the time were also
incorporating the TL in their sleeping bag lines. But, not knowing these
other manufacturers personally as I did him I only suggested to him that
it was a mistake and that he should stay with PG since we all knew it
was the best of the synthetics. Even though I was a competitor, knowing
I had the best bags on the market I was acting as a friend and told him
TL was not a good product however, he refused my suggestion in a very
matter of fact manner.
The history of TL's use by the sleeping bag makers lasted about three
years after which all of them dropped the product, and for good reason.
The fiberfill TL did not do a very good job of trapping body heat, it
collapsed or went flat almost immediately from being stuffed in a stuff
sack, would break apart when laundered, etc. A few years later he was
one of the original owners of MH. When MH opened as I understand it 3-M
approached him with the TL and he rightly so refused to consider it for
his sleeping bags. What he did was to copy the construction method employed
by The North Face Company as have almost every other sleeping bag marketing
company in the USA. It is called "shingle construction" of PG
and it has been noted in every major catalog selling camping equipment.
It is a very expensive construction method and could never be done in
the US because since manufacturing time is longer than making a down bag,
hence why they are made in China.
When I first discovered how well PG would perform when used in a non-quilted
manner I showed it to all of the domestic manufacturers from 1968 to 1973,
only to be rebuffed. I explained that the best method of working with
the fiber was via lamination, all to no avail. As time went by they all
had problems so when 3-M came along they were ready to try their product,
as was the case later with the Primaloft. They simply chose not to learn
and today they are resorting to copying the most successful sleeping bag
ever a laminated continuous filament fiberfill bag, the Wiggy bag. However,
as I have described above they aren't even copying my bag correctly. They
are taking what I know to be the best insulating medium ever developed
and are using it in a manner that will destroy it in the product of a
sleeping bag.
These bags are being sold through retail companies like REI and L.L. Bean
to mention two of probably several hundred other retailers around the
country. I noted in the L.L. Bean literature that is available online
one of these MH bags attributes is "it (the insulation) stays consistently
distributed, even after repeated compression and washing." Having
laundered a single bag that was not ever used and seeing how the fiber
started to separate tells me that the L.L. Bean Company, in my opinion
never wash tested the bag. Had they wash tested the bag and then opened
it they would have seen what I saw, fiber separation. They just said what
they did to make the bag more appealing, after all I tell everybody to
wash their Wiggy bag after each outing. Simply making the association
I believe with Wiggy's, after all why show a non-quilted sleeping bag
if not to associate it with a Wiggy bag.
During the course of writing this newsletter I was informed that REI has
dropped the MH Lamina sleeping bags from their product mix, I congratulate
them for this.
What I do not understand is why when MH was in discussion with me they
simply walked away when they could have had an exclusive from me to sell
to all retailers. It is also interesting to note that the two mentioned
companies had the opportunity to purchase Wiggy's bags from the time I
started in 1986 but refused then and for the next few years to deal with
me, until I chose not to try any longer. Give them a name that is better
known in the backpacking market and a laminated bag and they jump on it.
These decision makers are as far as I am concerned brain dead when it
comes to fiberfill insulations.
There is no doubt in my mind that any and all retailers selling these
bags will experience returns, and that in my opinion is tragic. It one
more time hurts American manufacturers even though these MH bags are made
in China.
WHAT DOES WIGGYS DO?
Strange question, not really.
Many years ago a friend of mine who worked at IBM asked me if I knew
what IBM did. I responded by saying they built computers, yes he said
but, that is only a very small part of what they do. They store and move
information as their primary business. The building of the hardware was
a necessity to perform the mission. He had a career in the Air force prior
to joining IBM, hence his military jargon.
So what does Wiggys really do? They produce insulation, LAMILITE.
You may think Wiggys makes sleeping bags as well as other insulated
products which it does but, its primary function is making and selling
insulation. The manufacturing of the sleeping bags and other products
is simply the way of putting the insulation in the market place when no
other company would use it for the same or similar products. If my insulation
Lamilite were ever to be put in the hands of consumers I had
to make those consumer products.
In the very early years of the skiwear business all the manufacturers
made garments that were either quilt lined or had the shell of the garment
quilted. In 1963 the style changed to non-quilted styles, no shell or
linings were quilted. In production the manufacture went from making a
two layer construction to a three layer construction, in essence the maker
was making two garments to end up with one. I had what I thought a brilliant
idea laminate the fiber to the nylon. Once laminated to either the shell
or the lining you were back to making a two layer garment without any
quilting. Easier said than done. The fiberfill products available at the
time were only made from chopped staple fiber. The fiberfill products
that were needed to make the three layer construction garments were heavily
resin bonded to keep them from falling apart during laundering and when
laminated were even stiffer. The fiberfills that were used for quilting
were much softer but, they would not stay together when the garments were
laundered if used in a non-quilted construction or if laminated. This
all changed in 1968 when I was sales director for a company that made
fiberfill products; they were the first company in the country that made
Polarguard (PG), the only continuous filament fiberfill product in the
world. After spending six years experimenting with chopped staple fiberfill
lamination I tried the PG and it worked! The end result was a soft feel,
smooth surface product that when laundered it never broke down or changed
in any way, except to increase in loft. This is the forerunner to Lamilite.
From 1968 until 1974 I worked almost tirelessly trying to convince every
manufacturer of skiwear, outerwear and sleeping bags to try my concept
of manufacturing because the end product would be a more efficient insulated
product. Not one company had any interest, and I must emphasis not a single
company had even the slightest interest in what I thought they should
consider as an adjunct to their manufacturing methods. That has changed
most recently, and for good reason. However, since they have no knowledge
of polyester fiberfill construction for insulation purposes they will
have problems.
I am the reason several companies are now actively making products with
laminated fiberfill as their insulation. It has only taken the industry
in general 30 plus years to finally understand that having a uniform insulation
throughout a garment or sleeping bag renders the product more efficient
than quilting the fiberfill. Had I not pioneered selling products made
with Lamilite the first laminated fiberfill insulation ever and become
successful, not a single company would do it. The problem they will have
as I have previously referred to has to do with the fact that they are
using chopped staple fiberfill as their insulating medium laminated to
their lining material. The advantage that I have over all of them is my
background of so many years ago experimenting with all of the fiberfill
available at the time. They will ultimately have product failure.
The chopped staple fibers will, and the order of deterioration is unimportant,
break down as follows; shred as a direct result of laundering, lose loft
or go flat. In addition on a weight for weight basis they have less than
half the insulating retention capability of continuous filament fiber,
Lamilite, and that will significantly lesson in a very short amount of
time.
In the case of some of these companies, they have called me about selling
them Lamilite, which I would do since I am in the business of making and
selling insulation. For what ever reason I do not know these company representatives
have chosen not to get back to me after the first contact. In all cases
I have explained to them the many advantages of using continuous filament
fiber as the core of the product; i.e.: Lamilite, all to no avail. I guess
they think, believe they have or someone has more knowledge than I do
about laminated insulations, they will ultimately learn.
WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE CONDENSATION IN A WIGGY BAG
In November 2004 I engaged in an internet discussion about condensation
in a Wiggy bag. It was and is my contention that an action of this nature
can not occur, and stated so to the individual who claimed he experienced
it. For those of you who read the posts you know what sort of furor occurred,
to the point that the moderator no longer wanted me to post on the site.
The problem was created when I said the individual didnt own a Wiggy
bag, which he didnt but, because of my comments they were interpreted
that I called the individual a liar, which proved to be the case.
The individual stated that he had experience condensation in an Ultra
Light (borrowed) while on a canoe trip in the boundary waters of Minnesota.
He was in the bag under a canoe while it was raining. I suspect the bag
was wet. During the course of the discussion one poster reprinted a comment
from this same individual posted on this very web site months before I
ever joined it, that he had used a Wiggy bag that was soaking wet but,
it kept him warm regardless and probably saved his life. When
I read of his experience I questioned why it would matter to him if he
was at a later date in a Wiggy bag that had a wet spot, as that was how
he described the condensation in a small area of the bag. When I brought
this point out in a subsequent post, his response was that I was using
this information to my advantage. Absolutely, anytime anyone says that
one of my bags probably saved their life that is quite an endorsement.
This type of information has a positive affect and may very well help
to increase sales. What manufacturer wouldnt appreciate publicity
of this nature? All would!
This exchange caused the individual to do research into synthetic insulations
which was to be published on the site whenever. When it was published
I could return to the site to comment. After about 4 or 5 weeks his post
appeared. To my surprise almost all of the quotes he used were taken from
my newsletters. The only form of synthetic insulation he wrote about was
silicone treated continuous filament fiber in all of its forms, Lamilite
or the various Polarguard products. This was terrific since it is now
and has been since its inception my opinion the continuous filament fiber
is the best raw material ever created for making an insulating medium
and mine in particular is the best of the lot.
This discussion was without question the best internet discussion I have
yet to experience. It presented me with the opportunity to answer questions
and ultimately brought to light the answer to a question I have pondered
for a long time, why Lamilite insulation does not allow condensation to
occur. Why when Lamilite gets wet it still performs the function of retaining
heat when other synthetics dont, and the heat generated by the person
in the bag will dry the wet bag as well as the wet clothing they may be
wearing. I now believe I know the answer.
It all has to do with the anti-static finish that has been applied to
the fiber which occurs as a result of the silicone coating. In the abstract
of the patent for continuous filament fiberfill it states; the fiber
is coated with a silicone finish which is substantially free of anti-static
agents. This means that the fibers arent drawn or attracted
together, they repel each other. This also means that there is always
a space between the fibers, it is very small and that is a good thing.
Gerry Cunningham the founder of Gerry Outdoor Products wrote a booklet
How to Keep Warm published in 1971. In it he states air
is the best non-conductive material we know of, a non-conductive material
is one which when heated on one side will stay cool on the other. Air
right next to any surface tends to stick to that surface. How small do
we have to chop the air in order to prevent circulation by convection
(heat loss)? This effect extends about 1/8th inch for all practical purposes.
Thus, any material that interrupts the air at 1/8th inch intervals or
less will deaden it so it can be used for insulation. The deadened
air is essentially the insulation. If you have a thin insulating medium
as is used by virtually every other sleeping bag company the air space
is greater than the fiber space so heat does escape via convective air
movement very quickly. The thicker the insulation surrounding you the
better and, the density is also a factor. If you have too much density
as was the case when Will Steeger discovered not that he realized it,
when he went on an expedition in 1986 with 5 other people Journey
to the Top of the World Expedition sponsored by Dupont Corp. The
bags they used were made by Sierra Designs and were insulated with Quallofil
and had a starting weight of 15 pounds. The trip lasted about 60 days
and within the first month the bags accumulated 35 pounds of ice. The
cause of this was directly related to the extreme density of the fibers,
there was no air space between them. The perspiration that each person
generated was trapped in the bags and due to the extreme cold the moisture
condensed and froze. Once the process started, basically the first night
the bags were used, each and every day following would trap more and more
moisture until the accumulation reached 35 pounds. They were in fact building
ice boxes around themselves. This does not happen with Lamilite. When
Lamilite is manufactured I have considerable loft but the fibers repel
each other so the moisture while in a vapor state and still warm will
move upwards (heat rises) and out of the bag. The silicone coating on
the fiber also acts like a lubricant. Testing by Albany International
of all companies found that two fibers one with a silicone coating and
the same fiber without the coating will allow moisture while still in
a vapor state to move past it 16 times faster than the uncoated fiber
will allow. The air that is trapped and attached to the fibers stagnates
and like stagnating water heats or doesnt lose its heat and is sufficient
to drive the moisture out of the bag while it stays. It is also important
to know that the nylon fabric which I use is very air permeable and doesnt
restrict this movement as well. High count calendared nylon used for down
bags or synthetic bags works against you because this form of fabric will
significantly restrict the movement of moisture while it is a vapor. Note
that condensation in all down bags becomes noticeable within three days
of use.
It is my belief that all of the factors noted above are the reasons that
moisture retention; condensation simply has not occurred in any Wiggys
bag or our clothing and why thousands of people have had the same experience
of drying themselves and a wet bag while sleeping in their Wiggy bag.
VISCOSITY OF BLOOD
One morning while working out I was listening to one of the morning news
shows. I was listening to a doctor speaking about the increase in deaths
particularly among the elderly during the winter months. What I learned
was the basic reason why, blood viscosity. The viscosity of our blood
changes with temperature and when it gets cold or rather when we get cold
our blood thickens. I gave it some thought and how this affects younger
people, its the same regardless of age.
The internet as many of you know is a source of information like no other,
so I went into a search engine with the words blood viscosity when
cold and received pages of information.
Over the years I have encountered more people than I care to think about
who want the lightest sleeping bag, jacket etc. when they head into the
great outdoors. It could be hunters as well as the backpackers. The time
of year is also irrelevant. The information available to all of us dictates
that going as light as possible is not versus not necessarily in ones
best interest, and it all has to do with blood viscosity.
When you start to get cold the viscosity of your blood thickens and when
this happens the flow of the blood through your body becomes sluggish.
The thicker blood is now not only going slower through your body but,
it is to thick to get into the very small capillaries in your extremities
like fingers and toes, that is why they react faster to the colder temperature
than the rest of the body. The chance of frostbite to those areas increases.
Blood flow brings oxygen wherever it goes in the body but, if the flow
is reduced there is a decreasing amount of oxygen going to vital organs
such as the brain and heart. The blood concentrates in the core of the
body which causes the kidneys to excrete more urine; chilled kidneys also
have a reduced capacity to retain fluids. These two factors cause increased
water loss, so you become dehydrated. I have hunted in the month of November
for years and it is cold at 12,000 feet. I have noted that most of the
other hunters young as well as old make several nature calls each night.
These are the men who are not using a Wiggy bag made for the environment.
Actually they arent using a Wiggy bag at all. If they were using
a proper bag for the environment they wouldnt be up as much, you
see they are dehydrating. I may be wrong but, if they were warm all day
and then got into a good sleeping bag they would be much better off.
The process of getting frostbite can be a long time in the making. Your
young and spend lots of time in a moderately cold climate. You do a lot
of things without gloves because the temperature is in the 30s you
dont realize that your blood flow has been compromised and several
years later your hands arent doing quite as well in similar conditions.
That is because the damage has been slow and progressive with each passing
winter. Simple solution, wear gloves especially at a young age and continue
into old age.
I believe it is better to be safe than sorry. Wearing clothing that keeps
you a little warmer can be opened to allow ventilation versus wearing
the lightest weight item that you have been sold by slick advertising,
and no matter what you do you are uncomfortable. Not having enough sleeping
bag is an even greater problem. You are tired, you get into your sleeping
bag and you are very dormant. The amount of insulation you surround yourself
with had better be more that when you are awake and active. If not you
will be uncomfortable. All of this leads to slow blood flow and when that
happens you are doing damage that is long term in showing up.
As you can see being part of the go light group isnt
such a good idea. The damage isnt necessarily immediate but it will
show up eventually.
WATERPROOF BREATHABLE IS COMING TO AN END
It takes a tremendous amount of force to get water vapor through
water thats [condensed] on the inside of Gore-Tex, Twight explains.
Twight is Mark Twight a very accomplished climber, as I have been informed,
but do not know personally, who works part of his time or has for the
U.S. military as an advisor on how to move through mountains and what
clothing to wear.
His statement is partially true. I believe the amount of pressure needed
to get vapor through a Gore-Tex shell garment that has condensation on
the inside is so great the stitching would break before the vapor past
through the material. He is now stating from what I believe was his experience
as true a statement as I have ever read about waterproof / breathable
(W/B) advertised materials. He was being kind to those companies who sell
the stuff. What he should have said is it doesnt work based on his
experience.
If the moisture your body is generating moves away from your skin surface
and stays as a vapor until it reaches the inside of the garment you are
wearing and there it condenses, which occurs with every W/B garment made,
why even think that the vapor can actually get out. It cant, and
it will build up layer upon layer until you take the garment off and hang
it to dry in a warm building. It will get heavier and heavier while it
is retaining the ice which in turn causes you to get cold or colder as
will happen with a down parka.
The real point that all should be aware of is what Natick Testing Labs
has known for some 30 years, when the outside fabric of any garment is
a synthetic material and it has been laminated to a film such as PTFE
otherwise known as Gore-Tex, Event or any of the myriad of W/Bs,
the fabric will be the same temperature as the air temperature or very
close to it. If the temperature is 10 degrees then the fabric is about
10 degrees on the outside and any water vapor hitting this fabric on the
inside is going to condense immediately. If you are out for a long enough
period of time the moisture on the inside of your garment will freeze,
and that is something Natick Labs experienced in the early 1980s
when they tested Gore-Tex.
I am glad to see, read, that the rouse of false propaganda is finally
coming from others, other than myself. As this information becomes more
common place with the consuming public the greater the loss of sales of
jackets made from these film laminated garments will happen. Although
I can imagine some younger buyers being swayed for a while until of course
they experience the truth.
As for Mark Twights advice on clothing, that leaves a lot to be
desired, from what I have read of his remarks and the garments I have
seen, he should stay with his climbing expertise.
COMBAT DESERT PARKA
The U.S. Marine Corps issued a solicitation to bid on 256,700 combat
desert parkas. The style and materials were left to the manufacturer to
provide, they were not dictating anything except that the material would
ultimately be printed with the new Marine Corps digital camouflage print.
I decided to submit a sample. At this writing I have no knowledge if my
design is in contention. However, I have decided regardless of the out
come of the solicitation I was going to make the garment anyway.
It has one very unique feature, that being the pocket closure. The Marines
needed a parka for desert use and the desert is sand and we know that
it can be very blustery in the Middle East so the pockets would need to
close to keep sand out. Using a zipper, hook and loop, buttons or snaps
would naturally be needed, except with my new closure these methods are
eliminated. I have incorporated a funnel top to the pockets which closes
flat over the opening. In addition the sleeves are raglan style for greater
ease of movement. There is a Lamilite L-6 liner that can be zipped out
and worn as a stand alone garment if desired. I also made a lined head
cover that could be worn by it self or over our standard insulated head
cover.
The cost for the parka with liner is $200.00, the head cover un-insulated
is $25.00 and the insulated head cover is $40.00.
At this time the parka is available in woodland camouflage coated (waterproof)
and uncoated (vapor permeable).
The temperature rating is from -10 degree F and warmer.
Here are photos of the parka.
Combat Desert Parka

Raglan Sleeve and Cuff

Optional Hood

Lamilite Zip-out Line

Funnel-top Pocket Closure

CLO VALUE
Several years ago I wrote an article explaining CLO VALUE, and stated
that clo had no value. The subject is rearing its head again.
Sometime in the early 1980s The North Face Company sent some of
their sleeping bags to the Institute for Environmental Research (IER)
at Kansas State University for testing. The testing was to determine temperature
ratings for their sleeping bags. KSU has a copper manikin, copper being
a metal that distributes heat more evenly than say steel. Natick Army
Testing Labs has had one for many years where they have tested bags and
clothing for their own use.
I started making Wiggy bags in January 1986, and in the ensuing months
became aware of KSU from retailers who wanted to know how my bags tested.
I had not known of the existence of the IER so I contacted them and found
out that the cost of testing was $1000.00 per bag. I sent one bag, a bag
I estimated would work between 0 and +20 degrees F. Having been in the
sleeping bag business nine years earlier I had a good knowledge of where
the bag would fit temperature wise. In May of 1986 I sent this 3 ½
pound laminated Polarguard bag off to KSU. The report I received back
was prepared by Bernard J. Rueschoff. I have know knowledge if he is still
in their employ. The report starts with the apparatus, an
electronically heated manikin that is the physical shape of a typical
man. It is made of black anodized copper material with heating wires bonded
to the inside surface to provide internal heating as to approximate the
skin temperature distribution of a human.
The procedure was to place the nude manikin inside the bag
and then lay it on a wire cot. This was inside an environmental chamber.
The air velocity created was about 30 feet per minute, the temperature
was 13 degrees F and relative humidity was not controlled. The temperature
of the manikin was regulated to 88/90 degrees F. When the system reached
a steady state temperature measurements were taken for 30
minutes using a watt hour meter. The thermal insulation of the sleeping
bag plus the surrounding air layer was calculated, here is the formula
I/T =K A/s (T/s T/a) over H. The test is replicated three times.
The bag I submitted for this test averaged 4.42 clo.
When I received the report I scrutinized it for a temperature rating but,
never found one. Yes, I saw the clo rating but had no idea what it meant.
I called Mr. Rueschoff and inquired as to the conversion from clo to F.
His response was that he could not give me an answer. I have since learned
that no equation of clo to any temperature exists.
However, that is not stopping KSU from offering without factual support
a graph titled Predicted Temperature Ratings for Sleeping Bags Based
on Insulation Values Measured with a Thermal Manikin. According
to their chart the bag I submitted which I rated for 0 to +20 degrees
F (my Ultra Light is conservatively rated for +20 degrees F and weights
between 3.25 and 4.25 pounds depending upon size) and the temperature
rating at 4.42 clo is according to their chart good for +52.3 degrees
F in a steady state model not explained, +42.1 degrees F in a typical
8 hour sleep model and +35.5 degrees F for four hours of sleep in a survival
model. So, am I now to believe the ratings I have been applying to my
bags which have proven themselves time and time again since 1986 are wrong.
According to there chart my Ultra Light has a clo rating of 8.0. Lets
go to the bottom of their chart. The highest clo rating is 10 which equals
3.1 degrees F in the steady state, -16.7 degrees F in 8 hour sleep model
and -31.8 degrees F in four hour survival model.
During March 1990 KSU tested my Ultima Thule sleeping bags, one was vacuum-packed
when they received it and one was not. The Ultima Thule, which I have
rated for use as cold as -20 degrees F, has shown that it is the most
under rated sleeping bag ever made. I have letter upon letter from customers
who regularly use the bag in temperatures of -40 degrees F, the test report
from KSU states that the clo reading for these two bags is 4.9. How is
it possible that the Ultima Thule which I produce many thousands each
year is able to keep people warm and comfortable in sub-zero temperatures
(not survival model) and only register 4.9 on their chart. Boggles the
mind. Or, as I have stated in the past, clo value has no value. Another
aspect of the test done on my Ultima Thule bags was the fact that unbeknownst
to me KSU was given two North Face Igloo bags. The Igloo model if memory
serves correct were rated for -25 degrees F use. They averaged 6.7 on
the KSU clo calculation. The Igloo model is no longer made, and was replaced
several years ago with the Dark Star model. The Igloo never performed
much below 0 degrees and the Dark Star is even lighter in weight, rated
for -35 degrees F and it also does not perform much below 0 degrees. So
much for KSUs Environmental Research Laboratory.
I could site several more examples from reports that I have in my possession
that KSU has conducted on sleeping bags from other companies some of which
are no longer in business. All of the information shows without exception
that the method of testing, using the copper manikin is worthless and
the use of associating a clo value with a temperature measured in F are
ridiculous. Once again I must remind you that clo has no value.
ITS NOT THE INSULATION, ITS THE SHELL AND LINING FABRICS
Several years ago Albany International presented to the outdoor industrys
insulated products market place their version of a polyester fiberfill
batting for use in outerwear and sleeping bags. They trade marked the
product Primaloft. At the time they presented the product to the market
to the best of my knowledge not one of the companies that existed in the
USA as a manufacturer of sleeping bags showed any interest. They did sell
L.L. Bean on using their material for some outerwear garments. Bean was,
at the time sponsoring the Peace Climb of Mount Everest. The Everest climbers
were given outerwear made by Bean that contained the Primaloft as their
insulation. The climbers found out in short order it was not acceptable
for the conditions that are present on Mount Everest. Bean did show one
of these garments in their catalog, it was similar to the Lamilite sweater.
After a season or two they dropped the product. Sometime in the mid 1990s
a company that shall remain nameless got an order from Bean for 100 or
so Primaloft sleeping bags. These bags were terminated after about 30
days, never to be seen again.
For all intents and purposes Primaloft is nothing more than a thermally
bonded polyester batting. Thermally bonded means, that one polyester fiber,
that has a melt point above 300 degrees, is blended with a second polyester
fiber that has a melt point of less than 300 degrees. When the blended
fibers are formed into a web and run through an over that is heated above
300 degrees for about 10 minutes the low melt fiber liquefies and joins
the high melt fibers together at the point that these fibers touch each
other. This construction of polyester batting predates Primaloft. So the
product was not new when it was presented to the market place, only the
name and possibly the combination of fibers used. They are using a hollow
fiber with a slick finish such as silicone. Dupont may have predated them
as well with this construction. However that is all immaterial, chopped
staple batting is chopped staple batting regardless what the fiber blend
is or the web structure or if it is resin bonded versus thermally bonded.
This form of polyester batting has never been acceptable for use as sleeping
bag insulation in any bags other than those that fit into the least expensive
category such as you would buy a child for use at slumber parties.
For a more through explanation of chopped staple polyester batting go
to my web site and see the newsletter dated 10/11/04. It describes in
detail the fiberfill product used by Snugpak. There is no particular difference
between the Primaloft and Softie product they use.
The lack of success that Primaloft has had in the sleeping bag market
place has not stopped Albany from pushing forward with what I term outlandish
statements of their products ability to perform. One of their representatives
told me the lighter the weight of fabric the faster the heat loss, the
greater the air and vapor permeability the greater the heat loss. Based
on the shell and lining materials one uses will have an effect on a sleeping
bags ability to keep you warm at a given temperature, not the insulation
used. They sent me a sample of a 4 ounce per square yard weight. They
told me if I used the proper shell and lining materials (didnt tell
me which they were) and two layers of this 4 ounce polyester batting both
top and bottom I would end up with a sleeping bag that would perform at
0 degrees F plus or minus five percent. If I use one layer top and one
bottom I will have a +35 degree bag. And used together they are supposed
to function as low as -40 degrees F. Now that is what I mean when I say
an outlandish statement. Each of these bags is good for 40 degrees F at
minimum and higher and when used together about 25 degrees F.
Based on the information I have received from them its not
the insulation, its the shell and lining fabrics that makes
for a warm versus a not so warm sleeping bag. If in fact this were the
case it wouldnt make to much difference what insulation one used
as long as the fabric was the right fabric. So, according to Albanys
representative if I do not use the proper fabric I will have a poorly
insulated product; its not the insulation, its the shell and
lining fabric that fail to keep in the heat that easily goes through the
Primaloft insulation.
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