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Hohenstein’s WATson Heat Loss Device That Quantifies The Evaporative Cooling Of Textiles Is Now A DIN SPEC Standard

The hoho institute in my opinion is a conglomeration of individuals who function on the basis of the rest of us having no knowledge.

When you sweat your body gives off heat and moisture. As the moisture moves away from your body it is cooling. The cooling action is called “evaporative cooling”. This action has been taking place for ALL of human existence. So now the hoho institute has “invented” a machine to test for this action.Wonderful!!!

June 6, 2019

BÖNNIGHEIM, Germany — June 6, 2019 — The 2019 published DIN SPEC 60015 “Quantitative measurement of the evaporative heat loss of smart textile materials for work, sports/outdoor and leisure” defines the measuring procedure and requirements for textiles and clothing that claim to have a cooling effect. This already offers a market compliant standard. The next stage is to convert the method into an ISO standard.

If you do not higher the hoho institute to measure this you can’t play.

WATson is the only device worldwide that can quantitatively measure the evaporative cooling ability of a textile or textile system — for example during activity — and is already well received in the performance apparel and home textiles industries. It measures the dynamic interaction of textiles and human thermal regulation with customizable climatic conditions and sweat rates. Only a 25×25 centimeter fabric sample is required for the WATson test, which provides data on average cooling power, cooling power over time, fabric response and dry time. The data is used for product development, benchmark comparisons, quality assurance and verified marketing claims. In addition to the measurement scenarios defined in DIN SPEC 60015, WATson’s setup can be tailored to meet specific requirements.

The last paragraph is gobble-d-goop.

I could not find an explanation for DIN SPEC 60015, but then again since none of the above has any meaning why should DIN SPEC 60015?

Posted June 6, 2019

Source: Hohenstein

When innovation succeeds –The product you are about to read about is not a successful innovartion!!!

June 10th, 2019 / By: IFAI / Feature

Collaborative, long-term efforts produce successful new products and applications. - The product may be a collaborative effort but has not been around long enough to be referred to as successful.

by Marie O’Mahony

The Kjus Hydro_Bot ski jacket is designed for enhanced performance in extreme conditions. It features an individually controlled electronic moisture management system.

What you have just read does not exist on a garment, maybe in your house with a fan.

Harvard professor and author of The Innovator’s Dilemma (1997), Clayton M. Christensen, identified two forms of innovation: sustaining and disruptive. The former he classifies as that which improves product performance, while the latter introduces a very different value proposition to what was previously available. In each of the case studies outlined in his book, disruptive technologies have led to the failure of companies that had been industry leaders.

Failure of the companies was probably because the products didn’t work.

Making innovation work

The 7Sphere Hydro_bot smart sweat technology ski jacket uses an electronic membrane to pump moisture away from the body to the outside of the jacket where it can more easily evaporate. It promises to be ten times more efficient at removing moisture than more conventional membranes, protecting the wearer from post-activity chill that can be caused by trapped moisture next to the skin.

Note the kjus company “promises’ that it is 10 times more efficient, etc. ALL membranes radically reduce the flow of vapor out of the garment to the point that none comes out.

Kjus Hydro_Bot ski jacket detail. Photo: Kjus Hydro_Bot.

The innovation was an ISPO Award 2019 Gold Winner, the end result of a successful partnership among primarily Swiss industry participants that included:

1.Osmotex AG, the technology innovator

2.Schoeller Textil AG, textile manufacturer

3.KJUS, Norwegian sportswear brand

4.Applycon, wearable electronics (Czech company)

5.Swiss Center of Electronics and Micro Technology (CSEM), engineering R&D

6.Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology (Empa), electro-chemistry, R&D, testing

7.Collaboration with several additional universities and research labs

Birds of a feather stick together.

The first time I spoke with Trond Heldal, director of R&D at Osmotex, was in 2012 when few of these partners were in place and the technology membrane that he provided for the Magical Materials exhibition that I was a consulting curator for at Science Gallery, Trinity College Dublin, consisted of a small membrane with two electrodes, a battery and petri dish that was filled with water to demonstrate the technology. It has taken seven years to get from proof of concept to “overnight success” with an award-winning commercial product.

Interesting choice of words; “magical materials exhibit” and then they supposedly worked. I doubt it.

Helly Hansen owner agrees smart textile partnership

Helly Hansen is among the brands that will benefit after its owner, retail group Canadian Tire, announced a partnership with textile computing company Myant that will see it incorporate smart textile solutions into its products.

The solutions are based on Myant’s SKIIN Textile Computing platform, which sees the integration of biometric sensors, heat generation technology and electroluminescence into clothing. It will result in apparel and clothing that can keep the wearer warm, help them be more visible at night, or record performance and health information.

Please note the reference in this article to “clothing that can keep the wearer warm”.

Canadian Tire will apply these technologies to workwear from its Mark’s brand and to outdoor apparel from the Helly Hansen and Woods brands.

"Smart textiles will allow footwear and apparel to reach new heights in terms of safety, health and performance. CTC and our family of brands are committed to investing to bring these innovations to our customers around the world," said Allan MacDonald, vice president of retail at Canadian Tire.

Allan MacDonald does not say it but I am sure those who work below him are already thinking of warm footwear, which does not exist at this time but they do not know that. What they do “think” they know is the incorporation of electronic devices will solve the problem.

Today I have published two articles complete and partial for one article. Each deals with electronics installed in jackets. In the past I published some of the articles I have read. One of the most desired affects is to keep people warm and a secondary effect is to get rid of moisture. Unfortunately those who are working on these garments have no knowledge of how to go about keeping people warm or how to expel the moist vapor produced by the body. They may think as Trond Heldal does there are “magical materials” out there. Let me clue you in, there are no “magical materials” out there.

Most days I receive these online magazines there is another company or university writing about their newest electronic discovery.

The use of electronic components placed in hand wear, socks, and snowsuits goes back to the 1960’s when I was supplying a company with polyester fiberfill that the electronic wires were thread through. The sales of these products were relegated at the time to one company. If memory serves correctly they were gone before 1970. At that time Stanley (I remembered his first name) was using whatever batteries were available at the time.

You would think with all of the advances in electronics battery life would have increased significantly, but it hasn’t because the power necessary to generate heat is far greater than these mad scientists think. Also, they just do not understand the importance of loft and density of insulation and how it works to secure heat as well as cause moisture to exit from jackets. Without the basic knowledge nothing they would like to accomplish can be accomplished.

What the general market place will get to see in time is jackets that will have the same characteristics; 1- no ability to keep people warm 2- no ability to get rid of moisture; which are the two most important needed.

Electric clothing has never worked in the past, does not currently work and I believe will not work in the future.

THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS CAME TO ME RECENTLY DEALING WITH FISHNET UNDERWEAR. MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN I WAS AWRE OF.


1.Wiggy,

Thought you would find this article interesting and amusing.

It's from the The Scout Leader Vol. 28, No. 6 March, 1951 Canada Boy Scouts online in a pdf. You have to scroll down to Page 88 for the article.

The article is about The Magic Undershirt...Leif Juell's Coat of Mail.

http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/dumpextras/Leade...

It mentions how a Canadian invented a fishnet/string vest type shirt and marketed it to the Canadian military and other users. What is interesting are the pictures-it shows a clear resemblance to the British WWII type.

Separately online somewhere in a forum I do recall reading that the Canadian military tested/used string vests(fishnets) during WWII.

Also online on the web there is a mention of a Dr. Henry L. Deimel who came up with the Deimel Linen-Mesh Co. 1899/early 1900s...an undergarment system made out of linen mesh to allow moisture to evaporate away from the skin.

On Google Images some of the old Deimel Mesh ads can be seen.

Interesting how folks from the past understood the need for moisture to get away from the skin.

– Unknown

2.String Vest/Fishnet At Scott Polar Research Institute University of Cambridge UK

Wiggy,

This is another picture of a string vest allegedly used by Shackleton from the Scott Polar Research Institute University of Cambridge UK:

https://www.spri.cam.ac.uk/museum/catalogue/artic...

also if you enter the terms string vest in the search box on their site you will pull up results showing a few different designs of the string vest that were used on expeditions to very cold places!

Interesting how the mesh design obviously worked back then...

– Unknown

3.String Vest(Fishnet Vest) British Military Issue Korean War Era Picture

Wiggy,

This picture is from the National Army Museum in United Kingdom.

It shows a British military issue string vest(fishnet underwear top) issued to British forces during the Korean War era.

As with previous pictures click and paste:

https://collection.nam.ac.uk/detail.php?acc=1994-...

The mesh design evolved over time to include cloth shoulder straps presumably for user comfort-gear being carried on the soldier's shoulders pressing down on cloth was easier than pressing down on mesh!

– Unknown

4.What the Original Fishnet Vests Looked Like...

This is a picture of the string vest with better lighting and shows the type of weave /knot construction in the garment from a UK blog titled Through The Gaps! Newlyn Fishing..



From what I have seen on the web and Ebay the string vests issued to the British armed forces during WWII and afterwards were basically of this type. A thick cotton string was used in the design and the design allowed the wearer to move with ease...clever thinking without elastic.

Thanks for making fishnet underwear available to those in the know.

– Unknown

5.The old-time String vests...Fishnet Underwear What They Looked Like

Hi Wiggy!

Enjoy all the information on your site.

This picture is from the National Maritime Museum in the UK...it has a display of a string vest purportedly used by Shackleton:

http://ftnews.firetrench.com/2008/04/string-vest-...

Not sure if it was used by Shackleton but this picture is one of the older type string vests/fishnet underwear and what they looked like. Note the very large holes in the weave...this was definitely going to allow the sweat to evaporate as well as keeping an air space around the user's torso.

– Unknown

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